Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?

From: David Fetter
Subject: Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?
Date: ,
Msg-id: 20090626155045.GC21081@fetter.org
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In response to: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus)
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Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Selena Deckelmann, )
  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Santiago Zarate, )
 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Robert Bernier, )
 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (David Fetter, )
 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Leif B. Kristensen", )
  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Ron Mayer, )
  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Shane Ambler, )
   Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
    Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Rob Napier, )
     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Shane Ambler, )
     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
    Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
      Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
       Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
        Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
         Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Joe Conway, )
         Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
          Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
           Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
            Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
             Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
              Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
               Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
                Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
                 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
                  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
                 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
                  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
                  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
                   Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
                    Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
                     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Santiago Zarate, )
                     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
                      Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Santiago Zarate, )
                     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
                      Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
                       Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
                     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Robert Treat, )
                      Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
                      Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
                   Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Shane Ambler, )
                  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
                  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Bruce Momjian, )
                   Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
                    Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Rob Napier, )
                     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Greg Stark, )
                     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Simon Riggs, )
             Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Shane Ambler, )
      Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Selena Deckelmann, )
       Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Santiago Zarate, )
     Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Gavin M. Roy", )
      Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (Josh Berkus, )
  Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  ("Gavin M. Roy", )
 Re: Joint user survey with EnterpriseDB?  (gabrielle, )

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:52:57PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:
> All,
>
> EnterpriseDB would like to do a survey of PostgreSQL users, at least
> the  ones they can reach through postgresql.org.  The results of the
> survey,  anonymized, will be published under an OSS license for our
> use.
>
> Under these circumstances, is it OK for EnterpriseDB to use
> pgsql-announce, pgsql-general and/or postgresql.org News to
> advertise  the survey and solicit users for it?  My personal thought
> is "yes".  Yours?

It would be nice to get access to the "anonymized" data.  I use quotes
there because it turns out that anonymity is *very* hard to guarantee
while sending out any data at all.  It would be interesting to see
timestamps on survey submission, for example.

> List of questions below my signature; suggestions on better questions
> welcome!
>
> Questions:

[cut for brevity.  Refer up-thread for the rest]

> 15)I would use Postgres Plus Standard Server if: (freeform)
>
> 16)I would use Postgres Plus Advanced Server if: (freeform)

The above two look to me like a lead-in to:

> 17)Would you like to be contacted and provide us more detailed responses?

This one looks like pure, crystalline sales outreach, which is a
perfectly legitimate thing for EnterpriseDB to do.  It's likely to
skew the results, though, as there is a significant proportion of
people being surveyed which does not trust that checking, "no" here
will in fact result in, "no" behaviour.

That's just generally, although previous EnterpriseDB incidents will
almost certainly increase that proportion.

Further questions:

*  How many people are there in your organization?

*  How many people do you anticipate your organization having this
   year?

*  Next year?

*  Where is your organization located? (pick n)

*  Which human languages do you need PostgreSQL support for?
   (pick n)

*  Of those, which need more support, and what kind? (free form)

*  Which programming languages do you need PostgreSQL support for?
   (pick n)

*  Of those, which need more support, and what kind? (free form)

Cheers,
David.
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