Re: bad advocacy by TWiki bigwig - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

Hi All,

Thank you for all your comments, both on-line and off-line. Sorry for
getting you involved in this, i did not even mean to post it on
postgresql-advocacy initially. I mentioned it in passing on an irc
channel, and ment to leave it to that.

Having said that, i've received some very meaningful comments that we
can move forward with. As far as i'm concerned, this thread on
postgresql-advocacy is concluded.

Best,

Koen

On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:59:41AM +0100, Dirk Riehle wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know the twiki.net folks and was curious why they would be bashing
> PostgreSQL, so I asked Peter Thoeny about this. He asked me to post his
> clarification on Koen's email, see below. Please don't respond to me, I'm
> not involved in the TWiki community. If you have further comments please
> address Peter directly.
>
> Dirk
>
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> Public statement by Peter Thoeny, TWiki.org founder:
>
> Dear PostgreSQL community,
>
> Please accept my apologies on behalf of the TWiki community. I took notes
> during the meeting, and I am sorry I did not log all relevant pieces that
> have been said about PostgreSQL during the meeting.
>
> Since Rod is out of town, let me try to state what Rod said at the meeting,
> to the best of my recollection:
>
> "PostgreSQL has arguably the best open source RDBMS technology, but
> unfortunately they lost market share to companies with lesser technology. I
> consider the PostgreSQL business model a failure, because there is no
> leading company associated with it. This has been publicly stated by some
> PostgreSQL community members." He went on to say that successful models are
> open source communities with one driving company alongside them: MySQL,
> RedHat/Fedora, Zimbra, JBoss, etc.
>
> I find it unfortunate that Koen is using words in this forum like "bad
> advocacy by TWiki bigwig" without first clarifying things with the person
> involved. I am not sure what the intent of this e-mail was. It is too easy
> to take stuff out of context in an online medium.
>
> Full disclosure: TWIKI.NET is working towards a win/win/win for the TWiki
> community, sponsoring companies and customers. Koen is in a small group of
> TWiki consultants who have not bought into this strategy.
>
> My apologies again for the stir, kind regards,
> Peter
>
>
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> Koen Martens wrote:
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>> Hey All,
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>> I'm an active member of the TWiki community, which is an open source
>> structured wiki. We had a community summit these past two days. It was in
>> the US, and i attended virtually, one of the attendants was not too
>> positive about PostgreSQL:
>>
>> http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiCommunitySummit2008Q1
>>
>> search for 'postgres' on that page and you'll see.
>>
>> Just thought i'd share it (well, after i shared it on #postgresql-eu
>> Andreas prompted me to share it here too)!
>>
>> While at it, we're currently revising the governance of the TWiki project,
>> and i wrote this topic today:
>>
>> http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/LearningFromPostgreSQL
>>
>> Hope i got my facts straight!
>>
>> Gr,
>>
>> Koen
>>
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