Sorted writes in checkpoint - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | ITAGAKI Takahiro |
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Subject | Sorted writes in checkpoint |
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Msg-id | 20070614153758.6A62.ITAGAKI.TAKAHIRO@oss.ntt.co.jp Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: Controlling Load Distributed Checkpoints (Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com>) |
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List | pgsql-hackers |
Greg Smith <gsmith@gregsmith.com> wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, ITAGAKI Takahiro wrote: > > If the kernel can treat sequential writes better than random writes, is > > it worth sorting dirty buffers in block order per file at the start of > > checkpoints? I wrote and tested the attached sorted-writes patch base on Heikki's ldc-justwrites-1.patch. There was obvious performance win on OLTP workload. tests | pgbench | DBT-2 response time (avg/90%/max) ---------------------------+---------+----------------------------------- LDC only | 181 tps | 1.12 / 4.38 / 12.13 s + BM_CHECKPOINT_NEEDED(*) | 187 tps | 0.83 / 2.68 / 9.26 s + Sorted writes | 224 tps | 0.36 / 0.80 / 8.11 s (*) Don't write buffers that were dirtied after starting the checkpoint. machine : 2GB-ram, SCSI*4 RAID-5 pgbench : -s400 -t40000 -c10 (about 5GB of database) DBT-2 : 60WH (about 6GB of database) > I think it has the potential to improve things. There are three obvious > and one subtle argument against it I can think of: > > 1) Extra complexity for something that may not help. This would need some > good, robust benchmarking improvements to justify its use. Exactly. I think we need a discussion board for I/O performance issues. Can I use Developers Wiki for this purpose? Since performance graphs and result tables are important for the discussion, so it might be better than mailing lists, that are text-based. > 2) Block number ordering may not reflect actual order on disk. While > true, it's got to be better correlated with it than writing at random. > 3) The OS disk elevator should be dealing with this issue, particularly > because it may really know the actual disk ordering. Yes, both are true. However, I think there is pretty high correlation in those orderings. In addition, we should use filesystem to assure those orderings correspond to each other. For example, pre-allocation of files might help us, as has often been discussed. > Here's the subtle thing: by writing in the same order the LRU scan occurs > in, you are writing dirty buffers in the optimal fashion to eliminate > client backend writes during BuferAlloc. This makes the checkpoint a > really effective LRU clearing mechanism. Writing in block order will > change that. The issue will probably go away after we have LDC, because it writes LRU buffers during checkpoints. Regards, --- ITAGAKI Takahiro NTT Open Source Software Center
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