Re: why postgresql over other RDBMS - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Alvaro Herrera
Subject Re: why postgresql over other RDBMS
Date
Msg-id 20070524195716.GK4320@alvh.no-ip.org
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In response to Re: why postgresql over other RDBMS  ("A.M." <agentm@themactionfaction.com>)
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Re: why postgresql over other RDBMS
Re: why postgresql over other RDBMS
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A.M. wrote:
>
> On May 24, 2007, at 14:29 , Wiebe Cazemier wrote:
>
> >On Thursday 24 May 2007 17:30, Alexander Staubo wrote:
> >
> >>[2] Nobody else has this, I believe, except possibly Ingres and
> >>NonStop SQL. This means you can do a "begin transaction", then issue
> >>"create table", "alter table", etc. ad nauseum, and in the mean time
> >>concurrent transactions will just work. Beautiful for atomically
> >>upgrading a production server. Oracle, of course, commits after each
> >>DDL statements.
> >
> >If this is such a rare feature, I'm very glad we chose postgresql.
> >I use it all
> >the time, and wouldn't know what to do without it. We circumvented
> >Ruby on
> >Rails' migrations, and just implemented them in SQL. Writing
> >migrations is a
> >breeze this way, and you don't have to hassle with atomicity, or
> >the pain when
> >you discover the migration doesn't work on the production server.
>
> Indeed. Wouldn't it be a cool feature to persists transaction states
> across connections so that a new connection could get access to a sub-
> transaction state? That way, you could make your schema changes and
> test them with any number of test clients (which designate the state
> to connect with) and then you would commit when everything works.
>
> Unfortunately, the postgresql architecture wouldn't lend itself well
> to this. Still, it seems like a basic extension of the notion of sub-
> transactions.

Hmm, doesn't this Just Work with two-phase commit?

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