Re: Backup - Mailing list pgsql-admin

From Eduardo J. Ortega
Subject Re: Backup
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Msg-id 200612130551.12935.ejortegau@cable.net.co
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In response to Re: Backup  ("Shoaib Mir" <shoaibmir@gmail.com>)
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Re: Backup
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Hi:

Well, I don't really like the fact that admin has to specify the archiving and
restoring command; an error here (a lack of -i in cp, for example) may render
the backup useless. In addition, the backup is performed only everytime the
WAL file is filled; i need to take consistent backups every hour or so, and I
am not sure if that time represents more or less than a WAL file ( i could
still measure that, i guess). Finally, as I understand, the WAL backup method
works like this:
1) Take full base FS backup
2) get some way to copy WAL files

If this is it, then I'll end up with an old level zero (i.e. full, base )
backup and A LOT of level 1 (i.e. transaction log) backup. I think it should
be more like it's for Informix, where you ask the database to perform an
online level 0 backup (base); after this, it stores transaction logs on disk,
which you can archive with level 1 backup. Then, say everyonce in a week, you
get another level 0 backup, and the database clears the already-archived logs
from disk and starts all over.

I guess this could be achieved with PG, but it requieres considerably more
steps (pg_start_backup, pg_stop_backup, manually cleaning old log files which
could be an error point), or I am getting something wrong. Besides, why do
you need to tell the database to stop the backup? shouldn't it stop by itself
when there's no more information to be archived?

Perhaps if any of you has this method working, you could provide me with your
archiving and restoring commands as well as a description of the whole
process the way you implemented it.

Thanks,

Eduardo.

On Wednesday 13 December 2006 02:39, Shoaib Mir wrote:
> To me PITR looks like a very nice solution for incremental backup and even
> they can serve as a warm standby. What exactly are the complications you
> see with WAL archiving?
>
> ---------------
> Shoaib Mir
> EnterpriseDB (www.enterprisedb.com)
>
> On 12/13/06, Eduardo J. Ortega <ejortegau@cable.net.co> wrote:
> > Hi there:
> >
> > Are there any nice (official or third party) backup utilities for
> > postgres? I
> > have a database which is several GB, so pg_dumping it to file and then
> > bzipping2 every hour is not really the way to go. I've read a little
> > about using WAL for incremental backup, but it sounds a little
> > complicated and *very* user-error prone.
> >
> > (Not sure if this is the right place for it, but i really think that PG's
> > developers should consider including a viable backup utility in the next
> > version)
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Eduardo J. Ortega - Linux user #222873
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> > Linus
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