Re: -HEAD planner issue wrt hash_joins on dbt3 ? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From David Fetter
Subject Re: -HEAD planner issue wrt hash_joins on dbt3 ?
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Msg-id 20060913153001.GB9228@fetter.org
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In response to Re: -HEAD planner issue wrt hash_joins on dbt3 ?  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 10:47:09AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Apparently we've made the planner a bit too optimistic about the savings
> >> that can be expected from repeated indexscans occurring on the inside of
> >> a join.
> 
> > effective_cache_size was set to 10GB(my fault for copying over the conf
> > from a 16GB box) during the run - lowering it just a few megabytes(!) or
> > to a more realistic 6GB results in the following MUCH better plan:
> > http://www.kaltenbrunner.cc/files/dbt3_explain_analyze2.txt
> 
> Interesting.  It used to be that effective_cache_size wasn't all
> that critical... what I think this report is showing is that with
> the 8.2 changes to try to account for caching effects in repeated
> indexscans, we've turned that into a pretty significant parameter.
> 
> It'd be nice not to have to depend on the DBA to give us a good
> number for this setting.  But I don't know of any portable ways to
> find out how much RAM is in the box, let alone what fraction of it
> we should assume is available per-query.

That's fairly straight-forward, if a little crude.  We ask the DBA and
provide some tools for estimating and tuning same. :)

Cheers,
D
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