Re: [Gforge-admins] PgFoundry Move - Mailing list pgsql-www
From | Darcy Buskermolen |
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Subject | Re: [Gforge-admins] PgFoundry Move |
Date | |
Msg-id | 200601171013.19338.darcy@wavefire.com Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: [Gforge-admins] PgFoundry Move (Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>) |
List | pgsql-www |
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 09:51, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > Darcy Buskermolen wrote: > > On Monday 16 January 2006 14:17, Gavin M. Roy wrote: > >>>My concerns with a plan like this are: > >>>A) I do not know linux as well as FreeBSD. > >> > >>80% of the Gforge admins are Linux guys afaik, which is why we need > >>more FreeBSD help. > > > > Which is why at least 2 more FreeBSD guys (Stefan and myself) were > > brought into the fold a while back. I can't speek for Stefan, but I have > > remained quite on this while I absorb the implementation specifics of the > > current setup. > > very true - it is always a bit difficult to get familiar with foreign > boxes, but I think we are rapidly getting near a point where the current > setup is understood and can be managed, upgraded and (likely) improved. > > >>>B) Can infrastructure be provided to allow for timely disaster > >>>recovery in the > >>>event of JD's hosting falling off the face of the earth, (much the > >>>same way > >>>the pg servers in panama fell off a while ago). > >> > >>We don't have this *really* in the case of most of the > >>infrastructure, and this isn't in place for pgFoundry right now with > >>Marc hosting, afaik. It is an issue we should be concerned with > >>regardless of who's hosting. That and backup. I've tried to address > >>what's happening (or not happening as I'm afraid) with backup before. > > > > Wether we have it today or not is one thing, but making it even harder to > > do in the future without having a solid plan is even more troublesome in > > my opinion. > > fully agreed > > > Along this note, I know resources have been made available by Stefan and > > the company he works for to help address this. > > yep - I have offered in the past and that offer still stands for > hardware/hosting/bandwidth (including decent network monitoring, remote > console/power and people 24x7 on-call) for whatever the community might > need (backup-server in europe or whatever). > And no - I don't particularly care if the box is running FreeBSD or some > Linux-Distribution(we have all of them - and Solaris,AIX and OpenBSD too > - here and each of those has it's strengths and weaknesses). > It's just that the current setup works on FreeBSD and afaik is not > (unfixable) broken. Maybe we (I could do it if marc agrees) should just > try to rsync the running vm to the "new" box upgrade it inplace to fbsd6 > start it up and test it and see what breaks. I belive marc dod make this suggestion, and I can;t see any reason not to try that now that we (you and I specificaly) are more familiar with how it all goes together than we were a month ago. If I'm not mistakin Josh B had pgfoundry.com available for pointing at the new box (if it's not already) baring any objections from the rest of our cohorts, this sounds like a reasonable thing to try, to see if infact it is this easy, or if there are some unforeseen hickups along the way... > If that works reasonably well we at least have a useful emergency plan > for NOW - independent of what happens(OS,Hosting or admin-wise) in the > "long" (1-2 month+) run. > > > Stefan > _______________________________________________ > Gforge-admins mailing list > Gforge-admins@pgfoundry.org > http://pgfoundry.org/mailman/listinfo/gforge-admins -- Darcy Buskermolen Wavefire Technologies Corp. http://www.wavefire.com ph: 250.717.0200 fx: 250.763.1759