Re: Attention PL authors: want to be listed in template table? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Peter Eisentraut
Subject Re: Attention PL authors: want to be listed in template table?
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Msg-id 200509081916.42248.peter_e@gmx.net
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In response to Attention PL authors: want to be listed in template table?  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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Thomas Hallgren wrote:
> GCJ currently that has limited security. It is 2 years behind
> mainstream in versions (they don't have Java 5 yet and their Java 1.4
> support is not complete). It is not stable and the performance is
> nowhere close to the commercial implementations.

Frankly, that is all FUD.  A lot of free software is limited or behind 
or claimed to be unstable in some way, but that has never stopped 
anyone from using it in the appropriate and expanding niches.  Just 
look at PostgreSQL.  Now, if the commercial Java implementations had 
acceptable licensing terms, I would consider using them, but they 
don't, so I won't.

> PL/Java is designed to run perfectly safe with a JVM that has the
> correct features implemented. GCJ has serious issues with security
> and I don't see that PL/Java, nor PostgreSQL should make any attempt
> to fix them.

Well, we had a similar discussion about the time when the Python 
security support was decreed nonexistent by its author.  Clearly, 
people still use Python, and people still use PL/Python.  It's really 
easy to spread a panic by claiming that GCJ has "no security".  That's 
clearly wrong because GCJ can be used safely in many useful situations.

-- 
Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/


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