Re: FAQ or so? - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

From elein@varlena.com (elein)
Subject Re: FAQ or so?
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In response to FAQ or so?  (Jean-Christophe Arnu <jx@tuxfarm.org>)
Responses Re: FAQ or so?  (Ken Johanson <pg-user@kensystem.com>)
Re: FAQ or so?  (Jean-Christophe Arnu <jx@tuxfarm.org>)
List pgsql-advocacy
One very small piece of fodder is the flyer I wrote
regarding the Open Source Maturity Model and PostgreSQL.
It highlights the stability of the project.

http://www.varlena.com/GeneralBits/Tidbits/pgosmm1.pdf

--elein

On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 09:32:18AM +0100, Jean-Christophe Arnu wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
>    maybe is this a so long debated subject.. But maybe is it a good
> starting point to refresh all the demonstrations points of PostgreSQL
> advocacy or PostgreSQL-vs-xx arguments. It may be usefull for me (and I
> believe other people here) to be able to argue on various points just
> like the eternal ? what about the responsabilities issues ? ? or ? who
> will be responsible for xxx ? ? (that's my discussion today, but it can
> be another-day/thread for other points).
>
>    While discussing with other IT-people in different country (US, CA,
> FR), the responsability issue is always put on the top of the problems
> of IT-directors each time you talk about PostgreSQL migration. This kind
> of problem is now more sensible than in the past because, from my point
> of view, there is lesser technical problem to migrate to PG now (I mean
> there's plenty of (very good) technical reasons to migrate from an
> another proprietary/opensource database management system).
>
>    The problem is more on the policy side (or ?politics? as we use to
> say in France), and I would like to have some others arguments than,
> just contact a service co. to get some support/responsibility for
> PostgreSQL. Any answer I get back from this arguments is that there's
> _no_ real editor to put the blame (i.e. get money back) on. I'm not
> quite experienced on this field, but I heard a lot of people here in
> France saying that End User License tells users that the editor is not
> responsible of malfunctions or deasaster liable to the software they are
> using. I can argue this, but people still believe that accepting such
> licences give them the ability to lead the  editor to the court.
>
>    More generaly, this is an OpenSource question. But PostgreSQL case
> is more sensible from my point of view because, large scale migration is
> about to be done in France (on the country administration side btw) and
> no direction or no project manager wants to handle (or endorse) the
> responsability of PostgreSQL migration or choice (whereas they could
> handle it technically).
>
>    My question is, how can I refine my arguments, do you have others
> arguments I can use? What could we say about responsabilities issue
> regarding to  PG? How can I better advocate on PG -more generally- ?
>
>    I hope it won't be an off topic discussion (well, I would'nt post
> this message to -hackers ;) ). Moreover, please "pardon my French".
>
>    Thanks a lot for any answer :)
>
> --
> Jean-Christophe
>
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