Re: grouping a many to many relation set - Mailing list pgsql-sql

From Michael Fuhr
Subject Re: grouping a many to many relation set
Date
Msg-id 20041202024556.GA40090@winnie.fuhr.org
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In response to Re: grouping a many to many relation set  (Johan Henselmans <johan@netsense.nl>)
Responses Re: grouping a many to many relation set
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On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:57:54AM +0100, Johan Henselmans wrote:
> Richard Huxton wrote:
>
> > I think what's missing here is the explicit statement of which group 
> > these belong in. Without a value to sort/group by, there's nothing for 
> > your queries to "get a grip on".
> >
> > So - add a "group_id" column to the bank-book and receipt tables. Create 
> > a sequence to generate group id's on demand.
>
> Thanks for the reply. Adding a group_id column would defeat the whole 
> purpose of the relational model. I do not want to add a grouping 
> beforehand.

How is an application going to know which records belong to which
groups without a group ID?  Or is a group ID acceptable as long as
it's not part of the data, but rather generated by the query or
function that does the grouping?

> The grouping should take place according to certain criteria, in
> this case: group all the records that have at least one of two
> attributes in common.

What about chains like this:
bankbookdetid | receiptid
---------------+-----------          100 |         1          100 |         2          101 |         2          101 |
     3          102 |         3          102 |         4
 

Should 1 be grouped with 2, 3, and 4 since 1 has an attribute in
common with 2, 2 has an attribute in common with 3, and 3 has an
attribute in common with 4?  Or doesn't your model permit this
situation?

-- 
Michael Fuhr
http://www.fuhr.org/~mfuhr/


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