Re: bug with dropping tables and transactions. - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Alfred Perlstein
Subject Re: bug with dropping tables and transactions.
Date
Msg-id 20000912013222.H12231@fw.wintelcom.net
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In response to RE: bug with dropping tables and transactions.  ("Hiroshi Inoue" <Inoue@tpf.co.jp>)
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* Hiroshi Inoue <Inoue@tpf.co.jp> [000912 00:45] wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alfred Perlstein
> > 
> > There seems to a race condition somewhere where that if you're
> > running let's say pg_dumpall and happen to drop a table mid-dump
> > pg_dumpall will die because it looses the table.
> > 
> > Would it make sense to use a transaction system so that when a table
> > is renamed/dropped it doesn't actually go away until all transactions
> > that started before the drop take place?
> > 
> > one could do probably implement this using refcounts and translating
> > dropped tables into temporary mangled names.
> > 
> 
> Your proposal seems to be an extension of how to commit/rollback
> DDL (drop/alter/rename etc ..) commands properly. There has been
> a long discussion about it but unfortunately we have no consensus
> for it AFAIK.
> 
> There may be another way.
> pg_dump(all) may be able to acquire a e.g share lock for pg_class
> to prevent drop/rename/.. operations of other backends. Of cource
> DDL(drop/rename/..) commands should acquire a row exclusive
> lock on pg_class.

No long term locks is better than a locking system, I'd prefer to
be able to proceed as normal since a transaction exists 'at a point
in time' there's no reason to delay a drop that happens in the
future so long as there's still something for the old transaction
to grab onto.

Your solution may be simpler (and I thought of something like it
already) but honestly it's not what I'd like to see implemented.


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