Re: Unhappy about API changes in the no-fsm-for-small-rels patch - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: Unhappy about API changes in the no-fsm-for-small-rels patch
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Msg-id 18035.1557236082@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: Unhappy about API changes in the no-fsm-for-small-rels patch  (Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: Unhappy about API changes in the no-fsm-for-small-rels patch
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Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> writes:
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:57 PM Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
>> On 2019-05-06 11:10:15 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
>>> I think it's legitimate to question whether sending additional
>>> invalidation messages as part of the design of this feature is a good
>>> idea.

>> I don't think it's an actual problem. We'd only do so when creating an
>> FSM, or when freeing up additional space that'd otherwise not be visible
>> to other backends.

> The other place we need to consider for this is when one of the
> backends updates its map (due to unavailability of space in the
> existing set of pages).  We can choose not to send invalidation in
> this case, but then different backends need to identify the same thing
> themselves and reconstruct the map again.

I'm inclined to wonder why bother with invals at all.  The odds are
quite good that no other backend will care (which, I imagine, is the
reasoning behind why the original patch was designed like it was).
A table that has a lot of concurrent write activity on it is unlikely
to stay small enough to not have a FSM for long.

The approach I'm imagining here is not too different from Robert's
"just search the table's pages every time" straw-man.  Backends would
cache the results of their own searches, but not communicate about it.

            regards, tom lane



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