Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Ensure age() returns a stable value rather than the latest value - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Ensure age() returns a stable value rather than the latest value
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In response to Re: Re: [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Ensure age() returns a stable value rather than the latest value  (Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>)
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Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
> On lör, 2012-05-12 at 12:59 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Now it's entirely likely that there is nobody out there relying on
>> such a thing, but nonetheless this is a compatibility break, and an
>> unnecessary one IMO.  You haven't shown any convincing reason why we
>> need to change the behavior of age() on master servers at all.

> Recall that this thread originally arose out of age() being called by a
> monitoring tool.  It would be nice if repeatedly calling age() on an
> otherwise idle database would not change the result.  Currently, you
> would never get a "stable" state on such a check, and moreover, you
> would not only get different results but different long-term behavior
> between master and standby.

Hm.  Interesting argument, but why exactly would you expect that age()
would work differently from, say, wall clock time?  And how likely is it
that a database that requires monitoring is going to have exactly zero
transactions over a significant length of time?

(In any case, my primary beef at the moment is not with whether it's a
good idea to change age()'s behavior going forward, but rather with
having back-patched such a change.)
        regards, tom lane


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