Re: WIP: Upper planner pathification - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: WIP: Upper planner pathification
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Msg-id 14489.1456928661@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: WIP: Upper planner pathification  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>> I think the default pgbench queries are too simple to have any possible
>> benefit from this patch.  It does look like you're seeing some extra
>> planning time, which I think is likely due to redundant construction
>> of PathTargets.  The new function set_pathtarget_cost_width() is not
>> very cheap, and in order to minimize the delta in this patch I did
>> not worry much about avoiding duplicate calls of it.  That's another
>> thing in a long list of things to do later ;-).  There might be other
>> pain points I haven't recognized yet.

> Yikes.  The read-only test is an 0.5% hit which isn't great, but the
> read-write test is about 5% which I think is clearly not OK.  What's
> your plan for doing something about that?

I do plan to take a look at it.  Obviously, anything that *does* benefit
from this patch is going to see some planning slowdown as a consequence
of considering more Paths.  But ideally, a query that has no grouping/
aggregation/later steps wouldn't see any difference.  I think we can
get to that --- but I'd rather not complicate v1 with the hacks that
will probably be required.

(My first thought about how to fix that is to not force
set_pathtarget_cost_width to be done immediately on PathTarget
construction, but make it a decouplable step.  I believe that
set_pathtarget_cost_width is only expensive if it's run before
query_planner runs, and we can probably finagle things so that we do not
really care about the cost/width attached to targets made before that.
But this all depends on profiling that I've not done yet...)
        regards, tom lane



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