Re: Draft release notes complete - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Peter Eisentraut
Subject Re: Draft release notes complete
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Msg-id 1336722911.12565.8.camel@fsopti579.F-Secure.com
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In response to Re: Draft release notes complete  (Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>)
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On fre, 2012-05-11 at 09:26 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> wrote:
> > On tor, 2012-05-10 at 17:31 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> >> If people want the main docs building more often that's not really a
> >> problem other than time - we just need to decouple it from the
> >> buildfarm and run a separate job for it. It's not rocket science..
> >
> > Many years ago, Bruce and myself in particular put in a lot of work to
> > make the turnaround time on the docs build less than 5 minutes, based on
> > various requests.  I'm disappointed to learn that that was abandoned
> > without discussion.  We might as well just put the old job back.
> 
> It was not "abandoned without discussion" in any way.
> 
> First of all, the docs still build in 5 minutes.

That is different from the turnaround time from the commit.

> Second, the "5 minutes docs build" link on the website was removed in
> *2007*. At the request of Bruce, who maintained it. This request was
> (at least according to the commit message and form what I can
> remember) made in public on pgsql-www, and thus clearly open for
> discussion. At http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-www/2007-12/msg00212.php.
> Where Bruce claims the other one runs often enough, and nobody
> objects.

You are misinterpreting this.  The reason Bruce's link was removed was
that the other (official) build was set to run at the same frequency, so
Bruce's build was exactly redundant.  The requirement/aspiration to have
a few minutes turnaround time continued.

> Third, the regular docs build on the developer box (which I think ran
> once / hour?) *did not work* (prior to that it kind of work but often
> hung and failed, but at least it tried to run - at this point it
> stopped even trying).

If you had any problems with how well they worked, we could have
discussed this.  It's fine if you want to change how they run, and I
have no problem with how they are run now, but I just want to make clear
what requirements led to the setup at the time.

> So where in all this was anything "abandoned"?

The ability to get a docs build in less than 5 minutes after commit.




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