Re: Synchronous replication - patch status inquiry - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
Subject Re: Synchronous replication - patch status inquiry
Date
Msg-id 1283499930.1834.2711.camel@ebony
Whole thread Raw
In response to Re: Synchronous replication - patch status inquiry  (Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>)
Responses Re: Synchronous replication - patch status inquiry
List pgsql-hackers
On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 09:55 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On 03/09/10 09:36, Simon Riggs wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-09-03 at 12:50 +0900, Fujii Masao wrote:
> >> That design would affect what the standby should reply. If we choose
> >> async/recv/fsync/replay on a per-transaction basis, the standby
> >> should send multiple LSNs and the master needs to decide when
> >> replication has been completed. OTOH, if we choose just sync/async,
> >> the standby has only to send one LSN.
> >>
> >> The former seems to be more useful, but triples the number of ACK
> >> from the standby. I'm not sure whether its overhead is ignorable,
> >> especially when the distance between the master and the standby is
> >> very long.
> >
> > No, it doesn't. There is no requirement for additional messages.
> 
> Please explain how you do it then. When a commit record is sent to the 
> standby, it needs to acknowledge it 1) when it has received it, 2) when 
> it fsyncs it to disk and c) when it's replayed. I don't see how you can 
> get around that.
> 
> Perhaps you can save a bit by combining multiple messages together, like 
> in Nagle's algorithm, but then you introduce extra delays which is 
> exactly what you don't want.

>From my perspective, you seem to be struggling to find reasons why this
should not happen, rather than seeing the alternatives that would
obviously present themselves if your attitude was a positive one. We
won't make any progress with this style of discussion.

-- Simon Riggs           www.2ndQuadrant.comPostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training and Services



pgsql-hackers by date:

Previous
From: Fujii Masao
Date:
Subject: Re: Synchronous replication - patch status inquiry
Next
From: Pavel Stehule
Date:
Subject: Re: thousand unrelated data files in pg_default tablespace