Re: Small locking bugs in hs - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | Simon Riggs |
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Subject | Re: Small locking bugs in hs |
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Msg-id | 1263988780.4043.2046.camel@ebony Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: Small locking bugs in hs (Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>) |
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Re: Small locking bugs in hs
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List | pgsql-hackers |
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 04:47 +0100, Andres Freund wrote: > On Saturday 16 January 2010 12:32:35 Simon Riggs wrote: > > > > No. As mentioned upthread, this is not a bug. > Could you also mention in a little bit more detail why not? When a cleanup record arrives without a latestRemovedXid we are forced to assume that the xid could be as late as latestCompletedXid. Regrettably we aren't certain which of the xids are still there since it is possible that earlier xids in KnownAssignedXids are actually FATAL errors that did not write abort records. So we need to conflict with all current snapshots whose xmin is less than latestCompletedXid to be safe. This can cause false positives in our assessment of which vxids conflict. By using exclusive lock we prevent new snapshots from being taken while we work out which snapshots to conflict with. This protects those new snapshots from also being included in our conflict list. After the lock is released, we allow snapshots again. It is possible that we arrive at a snapshot that is identical to one that we just decided we should conflict with. This a case of false positives, not an actual problem. There are two cases: (1) if we were correct in using latestCompletedXid then that means that all xids in the snapshot lower than that are FATAL errors, so not xids that ever commit. We can make no visibility errors if we allow such xids into the snapshot. (2) if we erred on the side of caution and in fact the latestRemovedXid should have been earlier than latestCompletedXid then we conflicted with a snapshot needlessly. Taking another identical snapshot is OK, because the earlier conflicted snapshot was a false positive. In either case, a snapshot taken after conflict assessment will still be valid and non-conflicting even if an identical snapshot that existed before conflict assessment was assessed as conflicting. If we allowed concurrent snapshots while we were deciding who to conflict with we would need to include all concurrent snapshotters in the conflict list as well. We'd have difficulty in working out exactly who that was, so it is happier for all concerned if we take an exclusive lock. It also means that users waiting for a snapshot is a good thing, since it is more likely that they will live longer after having waited. So its not a bug for us to use exclusive lock and is actually desirable. We could reduce false positives by having the master calculate the exact xmin each time it issues an XLOG_BTREE_DELETE record. That would introduce more contention since that happens during btree split operations, so might be counter productive. -- Simon Riggs www.2ndQuadrant.com
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