Re: Hot standby, prepared xacts, locks - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
Subject Re: Hot standby, prepared xacts, locks
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Msg-id 1256191452.492.6963.camel@ebony
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In response to Re: Hot standby, prepared xacts, locks  (Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>)
Responses Re: Hot standby, prepared xacts, locks  (Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>)
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On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 07:55 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> Simon Riggs wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 23:02 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> >> Hmm, dunno about that, but there is one problem with the "grant to dummy
> >> proc, then release in startup process" approach. What if there isn't
> >> enough shared memory available to re-acquire the lock for the dummy
> >> proc? It would be rather unfortunate to throw an error and shut down the
> >> standby, instead of promoting it to a new master.
> > 
> > Any error would be unfortunate at that point. That particular error
> > seems unlikely, since we are only talking about AccessExclusiveLocks. If
> > the server has a problem with that many locks, then it is severely in
> > danger from prepared transactions in the general case, since such errors
> > could be also be thrown by the current code in mildly different
> > circumstances.
> 
> Note that read-only backends also occupy lock space when they run
> queries, taking AccessShareLocks.
> 
> > Do you see any alternative approaches to the one taken?
> 
> Making some effort to transfer locks instead of acquiring+releasing
> would eliminate the need for having extra lock space available when
> switching from hot standby mode to normal operation.

This isn't very clear. You started by saying you were quite eager to
always grant and then release; this sounds like you don't want that now,
but you now again like the approach I had already attempted to take.
Please explain a little more.

Well spotted on the pending bug, BTW.

-- Simon Riggs           www.2ndQuadrant.com



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