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From Zeugswetter Andreas SB
Subject AW: AW: Re: Backup and Recovery
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Msg-id 11C1E6749A55D411A9670001FA68796336836A@sdexcsrv1.f000.d0188.sd.spardat.at
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Responses Re: AW: AW: Re: Backup and Recovery  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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> >> Ideally the archiving
> >> process would also discard records from aborted transactions, but I'm
> >> not sure how hard that'd be to do.
> 
> > Unless we have UNDO we also need to roll forward the physical changes of 
> > aborted transactions, or later redo records will "sit on a 
> wrong physical image".
> 
> Wouldn't it be the same as the case where we *do* have UNDO?  How is a
> removed tuple different from a tuple that was never there?

HiHi, the problem is a subtile one. What if a previously aborted txn 
produced a btree page split, that would otherwise not have happened ?
Another issue is "physical log" if first modification after checkpoint
was from an aborted txn. Now because you need to write that physical log
page you will also need to write the abort to pg_log ...

I guess you can however discard heap tuple *column values* from aborted 
txns, but I am not sure that is worth it.

Andreas


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