Re: That EXPLAIN ANALYZE patch still needs work - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
Subject Re: That EXPLAIN ANALYZE patch still needs work
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Msg-id 1149683981.2621.614.camel@localhost.localdomain
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In response to Re: That EXPLAIN ANALYZE patch still needs work  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: That EXPLAIN ANALYZE patch still needs work
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On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 16:50 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:

> I have a theory about this, and it's not pleasant at all.  What I
> think is that we have a Heisenberg problem here: the act of invoking
> gettimeofday() actually changes what is measured. 

> If this theory is correct, then the entire notion of EXPLAIN ANALYZE
> sampling has just crashed and burned.  We can't ship a measurement
> tool that is accurate on some platforms and not others.

Regrettably, I would agree and so conclude that we shouldn't pursue the
sampling idea further. Heisenbugs suck time like no other. Interesting,
though.

That leaves us with a number of possibilities:
0. Do Nothing
1. Option to skip timing altogether on an EXPLAIN ANALYZE
2. Option to produce a partial execution only, to locate problem areas.

Any others?

Option 2 would be harder to interpret, but still useful - originally
discussed in a current thread on -perform.
Option 1 wouldn't be as useful as the original sampling idea, but if its
not on the table any longer....

I'd revert back to Option 1 as being the best choice for further work.

Do we agree the idea can't go further? What next?

--  Simon Riggs              EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com



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