Re: Compression and on-disk sorting - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
Subject Re: Compression and on-disk sorting
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Msg-id 1149677990.2621.569.camel@localhost.localdomain
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In response to Re: Compression and on-disk sorting  ("Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com>)
Responses Re: Compression and on-disk sorting  ("Jim C. Nasby" <jnasby@pervasive.com>)
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On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 01:33 -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 09:21:44PM +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 14:47 -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> > 
> > > But the meat is:
> > >                                         -- work_mem --
> > >                         Scale           2000    20000
> > > not compressed          150             805.7   797.7
> > > not compressed          3000            17820   17436
> > > compressed              150             371.4   400.1
> > > compressed              3000            8152    8537
> > > compressed, no headers  3000            7325    7876
> > 
> > Since Tom has committed the header-removing patch, we need to test
> > 
> >     not compressed, no headers v compressed, no headers
> 
>                                         -- work_mem --
>                         Scale           2000    20000
> not compressed          150             805.7   797.7
> not compressed          3000            17820   17436
> not compressed, no hdr  3000            14470   14507
> compressed              150             371.4   400.1
> compressed              3000            8152    8537
> compressed, no headers  3000            7325    7876

That looks fairly conclusive. Can we try tests with data in reverse
order, so we use more tapes? We're still using a single tape, so the
additional overhead of compression doesn't cause any pain.

> > There is a noticeable rise in sort time with increasing work_mem, but
> > that needs to be offset from the benefit that in-general comes from
> > using a large Heap for the sort. With the data you're using that always
> > looks like a loss, but that isn't true with all input data orderings.
> 
> I thought that a change had been made to the on-disk sort specifically to
> eliminate the problem of more work_mem making the sort take longer. 

There was a severe non-optimal piece of code...but the general effect
still exists. As does the effect that having higher work_mem produces
fewer runs which speeds up the final stages of the sort.

> I also
> thought that there was something about that fix that was tunable.

Increasing work_mem makes *this* test case take longer. 

--  Simon Riggs              EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com



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