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From | Simon Riggs |
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Subject | Feedback from LinuxWorld, London |
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Reposted with attachment now accessible by link: http://pgfoundry.org/docman/view.php/1000047/91/PostgreSQL_Flyer.ppt -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> To: pgsql-advocacy@postgresql.org Cc: Mark Cave-Ayland <m.cave-ayland@webbased.co.uk>, helen@2ndquadrant.com Subject: Feedback from LinuxWorld, London Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:28:00 +0100 Mark Cave-Ayland, Helen Barnes and I have just completed running the PostgreSQL stand at LinuxWorld, London. (First off: thanks guys - apologies were received from number of others unable to make it at last moment). The stand was huge, in comparison to last year: we were provided with a corner stand right in the main thoroughfare and the stand was very busy for the whole two days. One of the surprising and most pleasant things was the constant stream of people coming up and saying "we know you guys are great, much better than X; thanks very much for your efforts" and constantly shaking hands. I wanted to record some lessons-learned for advocacy, based upon these basic observations which we have pooled: Questions that got asked multiple times, in very rapidly descending frequency order were: 1= How do you differ from MySQL ? (All questioners assumed they would be the same, apart from the differences, rather than assuming they were different and asking for similarities...) 1= Do you support Replication/Fail-over/Load-balancing? Where can I get information on it? 3. Where can I get support/hosting/training ? 4. What type of licence is it under? Will it always be free? 5. Is the Windows port just as good as the Linux one? There were no questions at all on... 1. Certification 2. Object Relational stuff 3. I need this new really advanced, complex feature: **everything** was about basics of compatibility, availability and access to information about PostgreSQL which is out there but people didn't know it. Main complaint about PostgreSQL 1. It isn't compatible with MySQL. I tried to port application X, which only runs on MySQL and I couldn't get it to work. 2. It's slow (and I know this because): - I ported this query from MySQL and it ran slow - MySQL told me/I read it 3. I love Postgres, but at work we use X instead. In general, stand visitors perceived these other products as competitors (numbers are ratios, rather than a visitor count). MySQL 25 Oracle 5 SQLServer 2 Ingres 1 From those observations, my own personal lessons learned would be: - PostgreSQL has connected strongly with most technical staff that know anything about databases. There is nothing to worry about in terms of core functionality. PostgreSQL has connected very poorly with two groups: technical people who are aware of, but know nothing about databases and database final-decision-makers. - Many current MySQL users would like to adopt PostgreSQL but feel unable to do so because their application package does not support PostgreSQL at all/well enough or they feel there are technical issues with the MySQL to PostgreSQL code (not data) migration. - Information about replication is not getting out there, even to the people who know and love PostgreSQL. - Most people's perception is that MySQL is PostgreSQL's competitor, and my observation is that we don't specifically provide any direct information or refutation to answer this Most Frequent Question. [Objective feedback I have received was that the PostgreSQL people on stand handled this question professionally and credibly by explaining the differences and encouraging people to examine this for themselves, rather than being dismissive or rude.] I've attached the flyer we were giving out to people. We gave out every single one of these, running out near end of second day. Best Regards, Simon Riggs
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