Re: OLAP versus Materialized Views? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Simon Riggs
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In response to OLAP versus Materialized Views?  (Jonathan Gardner <jgardner@jonathangardner.net>)
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On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 23:47, Jonathan Gardner wrote:
> I've just discovered OLAP and it looks like a competing technology with 
> materialized views.

Yes. Read up some more, but don't get sucked in by the marketing.

> In a nutshell, OLAP seems to be "pre-storing" the results of potential 
> queries. When queries are made with those conditions, then the pre-stored 
> results are used. It seems most common for join conditions or aggregates 
> with conditions. (Corrections welcome...)
> 
> This seems like a generally useful tool. I expect PostgreSQL should one day 
> have a feature like this.
> 
> OLAP usage would basically be describing how the data fits together and 
> predicting what kinds of queries will be made. Then, internally the 
> implementation would decide what data should be cached. Perhaps it can do 
> some analysis of the data and the queries being run to come up with a fair 
> compromise.
> 
> Materialized Views are a simpler concept, but of limited usefulness. Having 
> a bunch of materialized views that are very similar would be less efficient 
> overall than having OLAP configured properly.
> 
> Questions:
> (1) Has anyone been doing any work or serious thought on anything like this?
> 

Yes. There is Relational OLAP (ROLAP) and Multidimensional OLAP (MOLAP).
PostgreSQL can be used as a ROLAP server.

> (2) Should I be focusing on OLAP rather than materialized views? With 
> materialized views, a few specific queries work really well, but related 
> queries get no benefit. Apparently, with OLAP, a whole class of queries 
> will get a huge boost. I'm not certain that OLAP and materialized views are 
> entirely different.

No, your work is well received.

> 
> (3) I can't seem to find the paper on the twelve laws of OLAP, but it gets a 
> lot of mentioning. Does anyone know where I can obtain it?

Written by Ted Codd, but not nearly as interesting as his earlier work.

> Future Thoughts:
> OLAP relies on knowing how the data fits together and what kinds of queries 
> are being done. It could be possible, just by analyzing the queries being 
> run, to have OLAP automatically kick in without user intervention.



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