Re: [Proposal] Global temporary tables - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Konstantin Knizhnik
Subject Re: [Proposal] Global temporary tables
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In response to [Proposal] Global temporary tables  ("曾文旌(义从)" <wenjing.zwj@alibaba-inc.com>)
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On 11.10.2019 15:15, 曾文旌(义从) wrote:
Dear Hackers,

This propose a way to develop global temporary tables in PostgreSQL.

I noticed that there is an "Allow temporary tables to exist as empty by default in all sessions" in the postgresql todolist.

In recent years, PG community had many discussions about global temp table (GTT) support. Previous discussion covered the following topics: 
(1) The main benefit or function: GTT offers features like “persistent schema, ephemeral data”, which avoids catalog bloat and reduces catalog vacuum. 
(2) Whether follows ANSI concept of temporary tables
(3) How to deal with statistics, single copy of schema definition, relcache
(5) A recent implementation and design from Konstantin Knizhnik covered many functions of GTT: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/attachment/103265/global_private_temp-1.patch

However, as pointed by Konstantin himself, the implementation still needs functions related to CLOG, vacuum, and MVCC visibility.


Just to clarify.
I have now proposed several different solutions for GTT:

Shared vs. private buffers for GTT:
1. Private buffers. This is least invasive patch, requiring no changes in relfilenodes.
2. Shared buffers. Requires changing relfilenode but supports parallel query execution for GTT.

Access to GTT at replica:
1. Access is prohibited (as for original temp tables). No changes at all.
2. Tuples of temp tables are marked with forzen XID.  Minimal changes, rollbacks are not possible.
3. Providing special XIDs for GTT at replica. No changes in CLOG are required, but special MVCC visibility rules are used for GTT. Current limitation: number of transactions accessing GTT at replica is limited by 2^32
and bitmap of correspondent size has to be maintained (tuples of GTT are not proceeded by vacuum and not frozen, so XID horizon never moved).

So except the limitation mentioned above (which I do not consider as critical) there is only one problem which was not addressed: maintaining statistics for GTT.
If all of the following conditions are true:

1) GTT are used in joins
2) There are indexes defined for GTT
3) Size and histogram of GTT in different backends can significantly vary.
4) ANALYZE was explicitly called for GTT

then query execution plan built in one backend will be also used for other backends where it can be inefficient.
I also do not consider this problem as "show stopper" for adding GTT to Postgres.

I still do not understand the opinion of community which functionality of GTT is considered to be most important.
But the patch with local buffers and no replica support is small enough to become good starting point.


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Konstantin Knizhnik
Postgres Professional: http://www.postgrespro.com
The Russian Postgres Company 

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