Re: Vertica targeting PostgreSQL users - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

From Joshua D. Drake
Subject Re: Vertica targeting PostgreSQL users
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In response to Vertica targeting PostgreSQL users  ("Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>)
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Re: Vertica targeting PostgreSQL users
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On 11/20/2017 07:43 AM, Jonathan S. Katz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Vertica current marketing is heavily targeting Postgres users:
>
> https://www.vertica.com/postgresql/
>
> and features this directly from their homepage.  I also know of at 
> least one campaign that has gone out around this.
>
> The good news for our community is that because of all the advances in 
> Postgres and the overall growth to our user base, there are database 
> companies looking to win users over to their platforms.  This is also 
> a good learning experience for us too: because we have so many users, 
> we also have to look at user retention to ensure that we have enough 
> features and available knowledge to manage Postgres.  I have not read 
> the case study that they proposed, but knowing the group of people who 
> work on Postgres and our software ecosystem, we may have been able to 
> retain those databases on Postgres.
>
> Going forward, we must continue to understand our users’ needs while 
> ensuring that we can provide them as many resources as possible to 
> help them manage Postgres and show them that here is great help 
> available when it is required.

You aren't wrong but this is also all but impossible for PostgreSQL.org. 
The majority of features now developed are developed by the needs of not 
PostgreSQL.Org but the needs of 2Q, EDB customers or even Amazon (in a 
different vein). The good news is we have at least two highly dedicated 
companies that donate code to the open code base, the bad news is both 
of these companies are move their clients to their closed platforms as 
soon as possible:

https://www.2ndquadrant.com/en/resources/2ndqpostgres/
https://www.enterprisedb.com/products/edb-postgres-platform

Or the users are migrating to something like RDS or Aurora.

I am not criticizing 2Q, EDB or Amazon. They are all conducting smart 
business but if we want more code that is generated by user demands and 
to increase user retention, then we need to make the barriers of 
participation lower for users. Right now they are exceedingly high.

Thanks,

JD

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