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From Rob Sargent
Subject Re: The tragedy of SQL
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Msg-id 05ac2565-b692-c73f-93f0-3bbf738e3bfc@gmail.com
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In response to Re: The tragedy of SQL  (Guyren Howe <guyren@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: The tragedy of SQL  (Raymond Brinzer <ray.brinzer@gmail.com>)
Re: The tragedy of SQL  (Michael Nolan <htfoot@gmail.com>)
Re: The tragedy of SQL  (Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@gmail.com>)
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On 9/13/21 11:51 PM, Guyren Howe wrote:
They are making a decent decision. SQL is a *fucking terrible* language, which I don’t blame them for not wanting to learn.

The whole industry, programming languages, infrastructure, everything would have developed differently if relations were a natural, pleasurable thing to use in any programming language. Like an Array, or a Hash.
On Sep 13, 2021, 22:45 -0700, Hemil Ruparel <hemilruparel2002@gmail.com>, wrote:
SQL is not the problem. Problem are the devs. I love SQL. I hate orms. The problem with databases is people refuse to treat it as the entity it is and want to use their beautiful OO system. Problem is databases are not OO. We need to recognize that and treat databases as databases. 
All languages are fucking terrible.  There are thousands of the them because some people bump into a feature they don't like and run off an make another fucking terrible language.  For the love of God, please don't be one of those people.  The rest of us find languages we can abide and do productive things with using features we like and avoiding those we don't.  I've always felt it was no small miracle the vendors managed to agree to ODBC/JDBC driver specs (even though the SQL language definition is "more like guidelines").  Go scream at the DOM and JavaScript.

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