Re: OT: SCO Extortion - Mailing list pgsql-general
From | Chris Travers |
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Subject | Re: OT: SCO Extortion |
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Msg-id | 01f601c3e0cc$1b757aa0$bf285e3d@winxp Whole thread Raw |
In response to | SCO Extortion ("Gavin M. Roy" <gmr@ehpg.net>) |
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Re: OT: SCO Extortion
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List | pgsql-general |
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org> > We figure that SCO will either be bought out, or go bankrupt, before we > have to worry about them :) Especially since they don't reply to licensing inquiries. I know, I sent them a letter asking what sort of licensing I needed and under what basis I needed it. I suspect they are trying not to pick on anyone who seems to have a cl (half a clue). IANAL, but you might want to read this before you respond and possibly consult with a lawyer as well. This is an attempt to understand where SCO is coming from, and might be helpful in further research. I am not sure where SCO is coming from or where its influences are. However, I have noticed a number of interesting issues which makes me think that this is a major problem at SCO which goes back quite a ways. I remember Ransom Love (former Caldera CEO) writing that the GPL was bad for business. At the time Caldera was a has-been Linux distributor who was facing declining sales in part because they had never embraced redistributable distros and was being crowded out by RedHat and others. Caldera at the time was trying to sell per seat licenses for its Linux distro and justifying this by bundling it with proprietary development tools. Love left Caldera after they acquired the OS division of Tarantella (formerly SCO) and headed the UnitedLinux project for a while. Sometime afterward, Caldera renamed itself as The SCO Group. I am not sure that Love gets it when it comes to the GPL, but he has double backed on many of the harsher statements he made while at Caldera, which leaves me wondering whether there was heavy pressure from the Board of Directors (and Canopy) to try to make it as a proprietary software company. They utterly failed in this regard, and were actually facing a shareholder lawsuit sometime before Love stepped down. To my knowledge Caldera was never profitable despite being an early favorite among Linux distributions. I suspect that when Caldera was formed, they understood that "Business" was not yet comfortable with open source, and so they sought to provide a Linux solution which provided many of the benefits that businesses saw in proprietary software at the time. Unfortunately, Caldera IMO made a business mistake which has cost them their leading position and may yet cost them what they have left (albeit not much). This mistake was buying DR DOS from Novell and immediately filing suit against Microsoft for Sherman and Clayton act violations (anti-trust law). The suit dragged on for nearly 5 years and was settled the week before it was due to start in court for an undisclosed (but by all accounts substantial) sum. In the mean time, the landscape had changed and Caldera had become a dinosaur. Caldera and others had outmanuvered them by allowing redistribution of ISO images of their distros, and Caldera was facing losing market share. Caldera's response was to tighten their control over redistribution of their software and attempt to license the software per seat. This failed miserably. So Caldera (with part of their settlement money) bought SCO (another failing product with a limited market). They continued to try to unify development on SCO Unix and Linux, but this did not attract many customers either (who were now understanding that open source was in itself a business benefit because it allowed for greater flexibility in implementation). Linux was here but Caldera was not really a part of it. This was the timeframe which defined Love's comments regarding the GPL. Later, the IBM suit was filed, with RedHat countersuing, and SCO later suing Novell as well over the dispute of the copyrights it needs in order to sue anyone else over copyright infringement. Their current CEO, Darl McBride, has characterized the strategy as a success not because SCO is selling more, but because greater publicity has raised their their market cap (by raising their stock price). How a litigation strategy is successful at building a business if one is not really selling many products is entirely beyond me unless this is a stock game. SCO wants the world to think that they are going to be successful and be able to sell a product (licenses to run Linux), and because Linux is big, they will be big too. They have also stated or implied that they might consider looking into infringement in BSD, Windows, and OS X, and have issued statements that they believe that all other operating systems are derivatives of their IP. In other words, it doesn't matter what OS you are using unless it is theirs, and even there if they lose their suit with Novell, there might be unforseen consequences (such as a lack of support as The SCO Group goes out of business). The SCO cases (SCO vs. IBM, Red Hat vs. SCO, and SCO vs. Novell) are worth following, but I am not worried yet. Best Wishes, Chris Travers
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