Thread: HEAPDEBUGALL is broken
The HEAPDEBUGALL define has been broken since PG12 due to tableam changes. Should we just remove this? It doesn't look very useful. It's been around since Postgres95. If we opt for removing: PG12 added an analogous HEAPAMSLOTDEBUGALL (which still compiles correctly). Would we want to keep that? -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > The HEAPDEBUGALL define has been broken since PG12 due to tableam > changes. Should we just remove this? It doesn't look very useful. > It's been around since Postgres95. > If we opt for removing: PG12 added an analogous HEAPAMSLOTDEBUGALL > (which still compiles correctly). Would we want to keep that? +1 for removing both. There are a lot of such debug "features" in the code, and few of them are worth anything IME. regards, tom lane
Hello hackers,
19.04.2020 13:37, Tom Lane wrote:
19.04.2020 13:37, Tom Lane wrote:
To the point, I've tried to use HAVE_ALLOCINFO on master today and it failed too:
Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes:The HEAPDEBUGALL define has been broken since PG12 due to tableam changes. Should we just remove this? It doesn't look very useful. It's been around since Postgres95.
If we opt for removing: PG12 added an analogous HEAPAMSLOTDEBUGALL (which still compiles correctly). Would we want to keep that?
+1 for removing both. There are a lot of such debug "features"
in the code, and few of them are worth anything IME.
$ CPPFLAGS="-DHAVE_ALLOCINFO" ./configure --enable-tap-tests --enable-debug --enable-cassert >/dev/null && make -j16 >/dev/null
generation.c: In function ‘GenerationAlloc’:
generation.c:191:11: error: ‘GenerationContext {aka struct GenerationContext}’ has no member named ‘name’
(_cxt)->name, (_chunk), (_chunk)->size)
^
generation.c:386:3: note: in expansion of macro ‘GenerationAllocInfo’
GenerationAllocInfo(set, chunk);
^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
generation.c:191:11: error: ‘GenerationContext {aka struct GenerationContext}’ has no member named ‘name’
(_cxt)->name, (_chunk), (_chunk)->size)
^
generation.c:463:2: note: in expansion of macro ‘GenerationAllocInfo’
GenerationAllocInfo(set, chunk);
^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Best regards,
Alexander
On 2020-04-19 22:00, Alexander Lakhin wrote: > To the point, I've tried to use HAVE_ALLOCINFO on master today and it > failed too: > $ CPPFLAGS="-DHAVE_ALLOCINFO" ./configure --enable-tap-tests > --enable-debug --enable-cassert >/dev/null && make -j16 >/dev/null > generation.c: In function ‘GenerationAlloc’: > generation.c:191:11: error: ‘GenerationContext {aka struct > GenerationContext}’ has no member named ‘name’ > (_cxt)->name, (_chunk), (_chunk)->size) > ^ > generation.c:386:3: note: in expansion of macro ‘GenerationAllocInfo’ > GenerationAllocInfo(set, chunk); > ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > generation.c:191:11: error: ‘GenerationContext {aka struct > GenerationContext}’ has no member named ‘name’ > (_cxt)->name, (_chunk), (_chunk)->size) > ^ > generation.c:463:2: note: in expansion of macro ‘GenerationAllocInfo’ > GenerationAllocInfo(set, chunk); > ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Do you have a proposed patch? -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
On 2020-04-19 15:37, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes: >> The HEAPDEBUGALL define has been broken since PG12 due to tableam >> changes. Should we just remove this? It doesn't look very useful. >> It's been around since Postgres95. >> If we opt for removing: PG12 added an analogous HEAPAMSLOTDEBUGALL >> (which still compiles correctly). Would we want to keep that? > > +1 for removing both. There are a lot of such debug "features" > in the code, and few of them are worth anything IME. removed -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > On 2020-04-19 15:37, Tom Lane wrote: >> +1 for removing both. There are a lot of such debug "features" >> in the code, and few of them are worth anything IME. > removed I don't see a commit? regards, tom lane
21.04.2020 21:01, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On 2020-04-19 22:00, Alexander Lakhin wrote: >> To the point, I've tried to use HAVE_ALLOCINFO on master today and it >> failed too: > > Do you have a proposed patch? > As this is broken at least since the invention of the generational allocator (2017-11-23, a4ccc1ce), I believe than no one uses this (and slab is broken too). Nonetheless, HAVE_ALLOCINFO in aset.c is still working, so it could be leaved alone, though the output too chatty for general use (`make check` produces postmaster log of size 3.8GB). I think someone would still need to insert some extra conditions to use that or find another way to debug memory allocations. So I would just remove this debug macro. The proposed patch is attached. Best regards, Alexander
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On 2020-04-21 20:27, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes: >> On 2020-04-19 15:37, Tom Lane wrote: >>> +1 for removing both. There are a lot of such debug "features" >>> in the code, and few of them are worth anything IME. > >> removed > > I don't see a commit? pushed now -- Peter Eisentraut http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services
Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > On 2020-04-21 20:27, Tom Lane wrote: >> I don't see a commit? > pushed now Looking at this, I'm tempted to nuke ACLDEBUG as well, which is the only remaining undocumented symbol in pg_config_manual.h. The code it controls looks equally forlorn and not-useful-as-is. regards, tom lane
Alexander Lakhin <exclusion@gmail.com> writes: > 21.04.2020 21:01, Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> Do you have a proposed patch? > As this is broken at least since the invention of the generational > allocator (2017-11-23, a4ccc1ce), I believe than no one uses this (and > slab is broken too). Nonetheless, HAVE_ALLOCINFO in aset.c is still > working, so it could be leaved alone, though the output too chatty for > general use (`make check` produces postmaster log of size 3.8GB). I > think someone would still need to insert some extra conditions to use > that or find another way to debug memory allocations. > So I would just remove this debug macro. The proposed patch is attached. I didn't review this in close detail, but I think it's a good idea. We have better memory-use-analysis tools these days, such as valgrind, so it's no surprise that nobody is using this old code. regards, tom lane
On 2020-04-19 09:37:08 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@2ndquadrant.com> writes: > > The HEAPDEBUGALL define has been broken since PG12 due to tableam > > changes. Should we just remove this? It doesn't look very useful. > > It's been around since Postgres95. > > If we opt for removing: PG12 added an analogous HEAPAMSLOTDEBUGALL > > (which still compiles correctly). Would we want to keep that? > > +1 for removing both. There are a lot of such debug "features" > in the code, and few of them are worth anything IME. Belatedly: +many
I wrote: > Alexander Lakhin <exclusion@gmail.com> writes: >> So I would just remove this debug macro. The proposed patch is attached. > I didn't review this in close detail, but I think it's a good idea. I checked this more closely and pushed it. regards, tom lane
I wrote: > Looking at this, I'm tempted to nuke ACLDEBUG as well, which > is the only remaining undocumented symbol in pg_config_manual.h. > The code it controls looks equally forlorn and not-useful-as-is. Did that, too. regards, tom lane
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 08:44:18PM -0700, Andres Freund wrote: > On 2020-04-19 09:37:08 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> +1 for removing both. There are a lot of such debug "features" >> in the code, and few of them are worth anything IME. > > Belatedly: +many +1. -- Michael